Author Topic: Parking on grass - PCN  (Read 921 times)

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Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #15 on: »
But where is the private property boundary here?
Probably at the tree line. I think it reasonably obvious that you're on the road verge, not somebody else's grass.

Or to put it another way, if you think parking there is permitted, what additional steps do you think the highways authority would have to take to make parking on the verge illegal?

(I'll defer to others on whether there is something irregular about the PCN or otherwise which may save you, but I don't think "I wasn't on the road" is going to work here)

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #16 on: »
Hi there, thanks again. What you say makes surely sense. My original point, though, was that where I parked is not a Highway verge, technically, as Ipswich Counsel itself define a verge as the area between the carriageway and the pavement (and so do all the other documents I have found online) - am I completely wrong here?

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #17 on: »
Hi there, thanks again. What you say makes surely sense. My original point, though, was that where I parked is not a Highway verge, technically, as Ipswich Counsel itself define a verge as the area between the carriageway and the pavement (and so do all the other documents I have found online) - am I completely wrong here?
The charge is "parking in a restricted street during prescribed hours". No mention of a verge, however defined, so it is completely irrelevant.

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #18 on: »
From the GSV photo. I would think the property line is the scrubby hedge and trees. Of course, you can take them all the way to the Traffic Penalties Tribunal, to test the matter. To do this, you must forego the discount. In addition, you would have to wait for the Notice to Owner, and submit reps again and be refused before you can register an appeal with the tribunal.

Are you the Owner and holding the V5C Registration Certificate for the vehicle, with name and address correct ?

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #19 on: »
You have posted a partial NTO, not the PCN.

As it's incomplete, we can't see the date of issue and therefore calculate the last day of the 28-day period.

Pl post the PCN, both sides, the full NTO and the council's reply to your informal reps.

As your VRM is clearly visible in the photos, pl only obscure your personal details.


Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #20 on: »
The Ipswich document you refer to is from 2009 and isn't relevant.

The contravention you have is for the yellow lines, which cover the entire width of the road accessible to the public.

Some councils have traffic orders and signage that ban verge parking but they don't need this where there are yellow lines.

Such footway/verge parking has been banned in London since the 1970s but councils outside London are being given such powers (Scotland has enacted a ban now).

If you and others have been parking there for some years you can try legitimate expectation for a first PCN.

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #21 on: »
Hi, thanks a lot to all for the feedback above. Just to clarify (I wasn't very exhaustive, I suppose), the grace-period for the discount has expired and now I have to go to the traffic penalty tribunal; I suppose I should try anyway. I have to appeal by tomorrow.

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #22 on: »
You have an NTO - you must pay or make representations to the council within deadline or you'll end up with a charge certificate and an extra £35.

Re: Parking on grass - PCN
« Reply #23 on: »
You have an NTO - you must pay or make representations to the council within deadline or you'll end up with a charge certificate and an extra £35.
+1
If you don't respond to the NtO it's game over.