Author Topic: 52J - Derby Rd junction Clarendon Road (Croydon) - First time in area..  (Read 312 times)

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Hi all,

I’d really appreciate your help regarding a PCN I’ve received from Croydon Council:

    PCN Number: CR22663922

    Date of Notice: 16/06/2025

    Date of Alleged Contravention: 08/06/2025 at 13:15

    Location: Derby Road junction with Clarendon Road, Croydon

    Contravention: 52J – Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles

    Vehicle Use: Private vehicle, personal use only

    First time driving in this area — completely unfamiliar with local layout

I’ve read the previous thread on this location https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/52j-derby-rd-junction-clarendon-road-(croydon)/ — seems signage has changed over time.

I’m unsure if:

    The signage at the time of my contravention was clear enough

    There’s still an argument to be made re: the PCN failing to specify the type of vehicle prohibited, as mentioned in other cases

I haven’t yet challenged it, but would like to know if there’s any solid ground to appeal based on:

    Unclear signage / recent changes

    Defective PCN wording (re: vehicle type)

    Anything else from those previous appeal cases



I’m also trying to download the video footage but the view my PCN website doesnt allow for downloads. If this is required please let me know of a way in which I can provide it.

Would be very grateful for any advice — thanks in advance!

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« Last Edit: June 18, 2025, 09:21:31 pm by JW92 »

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Bump. Still hoping to understand if the wording of the PCN or the signage could give grounds for an appeal — especially in light of previous cases discussed on the forum. Appreciate any input from the experts here. Thanks again!

You haven't posted the PCN.

My bad posted now - I could've sworn I attached it!

The signage from that direction seems to appear part way down a road and not at a junction. That is not unusual but we'd expect advance signs.

« Last Edit: June 18, 2025, 11:08:05 pm by stamfordman »

GSV for Derby Road is only up to August 2022, but the road has a road closure notice and bollard at the exact place the existing restriction now is : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mhDx7ukESy1GtDRm6

Certainly there should be some advance warning, as the restriction is 24x7 and turning space is very restricted. A look on London Road shows there are cul-de-sac signs either side of the entry to Derby Road, plus advance warning signs on Clarendon Road in both directions : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/snJt3iFmBwGCKwDR6
and
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rHfCBSBMqCdCW1T17
However, the sign in the southbound direction is partly facing away from approaching traffic

So in my opinion, it does looks as if Croydon have done their duty under LATOR Regulation 18 to place adequate signage.