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34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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PCN EA58550435

I received post dated 13/07/2023 for an alleged contravention 34j - being in a bus lane in UXbridge Road. It was 00:12 and it was bucketing down. I could not see where exactly it is. I asked for the exact location (I couldn't view the pictures at first). All they did was reply to me on 27th July that:

'You state that it was dark and raining, and visibility was poor, and you could not see that it
was a bus lane. However, once a driver has deemed the conditions safe to drive in, they also
accept responsibility for obeying all road signs and markings.'

They furnished no further pictures other than a still camera shot and a few seconds of footage. I cannot ascertain where it is.

Please advise if I should pay or challenge?

I'm having some computer issues, so not sure if pics will come through:



Many thanks


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Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this? Not sure how to proceed...

Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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I advise waiting for the Enforcement Notice and making exactly the same representations again. I would make no comment on their initial rejection.

As this is Ealing, they are now well aware of the camera certification issue so I see no point in raising it unless cp feels it is an avenue worth exploring just in case the camera used does not match any new certificate.  A tedious exercise.  But........?

As per the other forum:  a wholly unreasonable response which hopefully they will recapitulate since any formal Notice of Rejection with that kind of response may well provide a ground of appeal.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2023, 09:07:11 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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Ok thanks.

When it comes, should I just let you know, and you could advise me how to proceed?

Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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Post the enforcement notice on here when you get it.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2023, 09:21:02 pm by cp8759 »
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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The camera is a LaneWatch MK3.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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Hi - I was away and just saw my post...I'm worried that it's quite last minute... :-[

Attached is the notice

Please advise

Thanks in advance



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Re: 34j Uxbridge Road Ealing (Eastward) (U), Bus Lane fine
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As per @Hippocrates's suggestion I would just make the same representation again.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order