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Re: 2 Council Parking Tickets in one day !
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as for my bumper being over the yellow lines I was under the impression that it has to be a wheel.
I'm afraid you're mistaken and I would not risk the discount on that point. If you give us a link to the exact spot on Google Street View, I'll check it against The Parking Places and Controlled Parking Zone (Liverpool) Order 2009 to see if the road markings match up to the order.

As for the other one, you have much better chances but it is essential that you get something in writing from the bank and/or the app provider, otherwise the council will say that you've made it all up.
So I wentback to the photo, and indeed your bumper is over the DYLs, so in my view a minimal incursion, but the council will make play of the fact that they hadn't got round to repainting the DYLs onto the resurface area, so a de minimis grounds is not strong. Your problem was thinking your wheels had to be on them; not so unfortunately. However when I look at this PCN, it really is venal moneygrubbing, but legal, I'm afraid.

Re: 2 Council Parking Tickets in one day !
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as for my bumper being over the yellow lines I was under the impression that it has to be a wheel.
I'm afraid you're mistaken and I would not risk the discount on that point. If you give us a link to the exact spot on Google Street View, I'll check it against The Parking Places and Controlled Parking Zone (Liverpool) Order 2009 to see if the road markings match up to the order.

As for the other one, you have much better chances but it is essential that you get something in writing from the bank and/or the app provider, otherwise the council will say that you've made it all up.

Many thanks here is a link

https://maps.app.goo.gl/npvyjJpZ5HGFEQms6

Re: 2 Council Parking Tickets in one day !
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For the FYL case, the entry at item 46C of the traffic order on page 127 says "46C Covent Garden southwesterly side for its entire length."

That really only leaves you the strategy of last resort, which is explained here. It has worked before (see Simandeep Johal v London Borough of Lewisham (2230428653, 04 November 2023) but we've not tried it on Liverpool yet.
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Re: 2 Council Parking Tickets in one day !
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Covent Carden PCN - I uploaded images to a site with a clicker in hidden format and they all got 2 clicks

Reply from council -

Reason(s) for rejection;
A PCN was issued to the above vehicle because it was 01-Parked in a
restricted street during prescribed hours in COVENT GARDEN - L2 on the
07/11/2023. The vehicle was observed between 10:46 and 10:51 and the
Notice was issued at 10:51. The operational hours of this restriction are 24
hours a day 7 days a week.
The issuing Civil Enforcement Officer has noted that the vehicle was parked
on a waiting restriction marked by a clear double yellow line. A number of
photographs were taken after the issue of the Penalty Charge Notice which
show the vehicle parked fully on the pavement on a clear double yellow line.
The vehicle was parked on a waiting restriction marked by double yellow
lines, this restriction is in operation 24 hours, 7 days a week, in other words ‘at
any time’; since 31st January 2003 councils have been no longer required to
erect time plates to accompany an ‘at any time’ restriction.
Waiting restrictions, indicated by single or double yellow lines at the edge of
carriageway, apply from the centre line of the carriageway to the building line
at the back of the highway and include the pavement and any verge.
Having given careful consideration to your informal challenge and all the
information available to me in the circumstances I must now advise you that
grounds for your informal challenge against the Penalty Charge Notice have
not been established.
It is the responsibility of the driver to check for restrictions and to ensure that
their vehicle is not parked in a manner that contravenes parking regulations.