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Southwark - Code 52m // Failing to comply w/ prohibition on certain vehicles - Larcom Street
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Hello, <- :D (idiot, me)

Didn't notice the sign as my GPS directed me past this... Regardless, this is pretty much my fault; not purposefully, but my fault regardless. I have only been driving for less than half a year (passed test 2 years prior to that), and since I don't drive too regularly w/ passengers (as I did on the day), I suppose a mistake like this was bound to happen.

Embedded* whatever is relevant below (hopefully correctly the first time round nope):



Video (linked here, if it hasn't expired already)

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.
Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.
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I am curious, since this post exists: I'm suspecting I realistically have nothing to stand on, but would there be any "excuse" (i.e. first PCN, relatively "new" driver, etc.) that would let the council slide, or will I have to suck it up and "mug-up" to the council?

Thank you for any response.

* = Set to expire after a year (maximum; some will expire earlier)
Last Edit: July 30, 2026, 11:25:29 pm by McThrowaway
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Please show all of the PCN only less personal details and I will deal with this for you personally.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Do  not do anything at present.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Southwark - Code 52m // Failing to comply w/ prohibition on certain vehicles - Larcom Street
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This which they will reject:

You cannot serve a charge certificate or increase the price to £240 as stated on the PCN. Therefore, please consider this collateral challenge and cancel the said PCN.

Choose ground: the penalty exceeded the amount..........

No more, no less and verbatim as I have written.

When they respond, I will take care of this case for you.
Last Edit: July 31, 2026, 03:57:24 pm by Hippocrates
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Southwark - Code 52m // Failing to comply w/ prohibition on certain vehicles - Larcom Street
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Quote from: Hippocrates on July 31, 2026, 03:53:21 pm
This which they will reject:

You cannot serve a charge certificate or increase the price to £240 as stated on the PCN. Therefore, please consider this collateral challenge and cancel the said PCN.

Choose ground: the penalty exceeded the amount..........

No more, no less and verbatim as I have written.

When they respond, I will take care of this case for you.
So I'm guessing through the link:
View the evidence, pay or challenge my Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)
pcnevidence.southwarkparking.co.uk

I write that in the box through: Representation -> The PCN exceeded the amount applicable -> This is a lower band contravention not a higher band contravention

If not, please let me know.


Also, sorry for my dumbassery and/or naïvety, but is there a reason I should do this?
I was just wondering originally if I have any actual excuse and right now, I'm not exactly sure what the plan is (would help if I knew what was going on, lol... or (I hope) you can ask me via DM if it helps?
Last Edit: July 31, 2026, 08:45:05 pm by McThrowaway
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We choose that ground as it is in lieu of procedural impropriety having followed several learned adjudicators' decision in this aspect.

PM me a phone number please as typing is tedious and time-consuming when you help 20+ people a day and file 3 or 4 appeals a day.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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As per our chat: I will deal with this one from now onwards.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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