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Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road

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Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
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I submitted this as informal challenge again. Most likely they will reject and say I have to wait for NTO now.

"I submitted an informal challenge which was rejected. However as part of the challenge I had requested a copy of the traffic order cited in the PCN contravention grounds. This was not supplied with the rejection and was ignored in the response. Could you please supply this traffic order whose alleged breach has led to the contravention cited in the PCN.

Regards"

Newham replied saying I should submit a FOI request if I want this.. I just did this however now it will take me over the period of the discounted window
Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
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Well now I have to pay the full amount anyway so it makes sense to submit formal reps and go all the way to tribunal. Hoping someone here will be kind enlightened to guide a bit more in detail - appreciate it’s the holiday and Xmas season so a lot may not be that active
Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
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Well now I have to pay the full amount anyway so it makes sense to submit formal reps and go all the way to tribunal. Hoping someone here will be kind enlightened to guide a bit more in detail - appreciate it’s the holiday and Xmas season so a lot may not be that active

I am exactly in a similar situation as you. I genuinely didn't see the board which was up (not sure how long it was up). Here is the link.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-help-didn-t-see-this/
Re: Newham 01a - tempoary parking suspension - Tarling Road
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Don't do anything in a rush, you've got 28 days from the 18th December to respond, so take the time to get all your ducks in a row, and wait for more experienced forum members to chip in before doing anything.

Having said that, I think your list of likely winning arguments is pretty lengthy, and I would be surprised if they don't drop the PCN before an adjudicator gets to see how much of a mess they made.

1) There's no evidence of any actual suspension signs, just an advanced warning notice. The order says it's only valid at "such times then appropriate traffic signs are displayed in accordance with TSRGD 2016(c)", and that "Parking restrictions will apply when the appropriate signs are displayed", so you will put the council to strict proof that such signs were in displayed.

2) The suspension sign says the restriction lasts "until Monday 29th September 8am-4pm". As the observation time was after 8:07-8:19am, the signposted restriction had already ended.

3) The suspension sign contains incomprehensible gibberish.

4) PCN is for the wrong contravention (see page 1 of this thread)

5) Failure to consider (as their claim that the right signs were in place is complete rubbish)

6) You will put the council to strict proof that "Tree works - Green Space, Cleansing and Gristwood and Toms" occurred after 08:07 on that day. They will have difficulty proving this as it's hopelessly garbled.

As you say, the full £160 is in play, and that's the upper limit if you carry on to the tribunal, so it's a no brainer to fight on.
Last Edit: December 27, 2025, 11:33:24 pm by Grant Urismo