Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) on: August 03, 2023, 02:45:51 pm #1 Hi!Thank you for running this forum.PCN image at bottom of post.Location on Google maps: Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps. Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps. Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps. · goo.gl I am not used to driving round Bristol, relied on my SatNav which took me down this road.I am Dyslexic and Dyspraxic - meaning it is pretty tricky for me to focus on absolutely everything, including signage (which - looking at Google Maps, is there).I just focussed on getting around safely and in all honesty... I didn't know what a bus gate was until getting this notice.Thank you in advance Last Edit: August 05, 2023, 06:06:41 pm by cp8759 Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #1 on: August 05, 2023, 06:08:41 pm #2 Please post the remaining pages of the PCN. Your best ground of appeal would be if the PCN still has an 0870 premium rate telephone number. Logged I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #2 on: August 06, 2023, 08:49:06 pm #3 Hi,Thank you for replying!Further pages are here: https://imgur.com/a/Hl59yeLYou're right - Automated Payment Service number is 0870 number.What does this mean?Best wishes, Georgie Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #3 on: August 06, 2023, 09:36:37 pm #4 It means that Bristol get a small 'bung' from the phone company for everybody paying via the telephone number, thus getting more than the penalty defined in law. It makes the PCN a nullity. Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #4 on: August 06, 2023, 11:06:03 pm #5 Quote from: CG on August 06, 2023, 08:49:06 pmYou're right - Automated Payment Service number is 0870 number.What does this mean?It means you can use this draft: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/bristol-clean-air-zone-pcn-17j-a4-ring-road-hotwell-road-(caz0001)-(route-to-bri/msg974/#msg974 Logged I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #5 on: August 07, 2023, 11:47:49 am #6 Absolutely wonderful.I have sent the 2 PDFs off just now - will update with the outcome! Fingers crossed!You are a star, thank you! Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #6 on: August 07, 2023, 01:30:19 pm #7 Quote from: CG on August 07, 2023, 11:47:49 amAbsolutely wonderful.I have sent the 2 PDFs off just now - will update with the outcome! Fingers crossed!Just to set expectations, I would fully anticipate a rejection, and we'll have to appeal to the tribunal. That being said, Bristol are yet to contest a single tribunal case that I've been involved in. Logged I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #7 on: September 02, 2023, 07:19:00 pm #8 Hi there,I have finally heard back from Bristol City Council and as expected, my appeal has been declined.Letter attached in imgur link.Do I go to tribunal? If so, any advice?Thank you again in advance! Last Edit: September 05, 2023, 12:42:18 am by cp8759 Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #8 on: September 02, 2023, 09:33:34 pm #9 Please post up remaining pages. Logged Agree x 1 View List
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #9 on: September 05, 2023, 12:43:31 am #10 As above, show us all the pages and please use the imgur BB sharing code to post the images on here. Logged I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #10 on: September 05, 2023, 06:20:16 pm #11 Hi,Not sure why Imjur didn't just post the link.All 3 pages are in the imjur link.https://imgur.com/a/NAugfgCMany thanks! Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #11 on: September 05, 2023, 06:42:53 pm #12 Absolute, total failure to consider. CP'S draft doesn't even mention signage....Press on. Last Edit: September 05, 2023, 06:47:21 pm by John U.K. Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #12 on: September 09, 2023, 12:09:33 am #13 Quote from: John U.K. on September 05, 2023, 06:42:53 pmAbsolute, total failure to consider. CP'S draft doesn't even mention signage....+1, I agree we've got them on a failure to consider.Would you like me to represent you at the tribunal? If so, please do not file an appeal yourself. Logged I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #13 on: September 10, 2023, 12:43:54 pm #14 Hello,Thank you for your replies again.I assume failure to consider references the fact they clearly did not read my original letter and sent me a standard response?I would love for you to represent me if you are up for it?Best wishes. Logged
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4) Reply #14 on: September 10, 2023, 10:57:51 pm #15 I'll drop you a PM. Logged I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order