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Barking Rd E16: 34j - Being in a bus lane (Camera enforcement)

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Barking Rd E16: 34j - Being in a bus lane (Camera enforcement)
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Received PCN from Newham Council for entering into a bus lane.

Didn’t realise at the time, that I had entered into the bus lane. Was under the mistaken impression that I had entered into the section of the road, that allowed you to go into the lane, just before the traffic light junction with Hermit road/Beckton road.

Any possible grounds to appeal the PCN?

Photos of PCN can be viewed via link below.

https://imgur.com/a/barking-rd-pcn-UTujSje
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Looking at the video, you started driving into the bus lane just before the black-painted pole on the opposite side of the road. It is then easy to see this pole using GSV satellite view to work out you were in the bus lane for about 29.75 metres. You also undertook other vehicles. So on the face of it, the contravention itself seems to be made out, although I have to say it does look a bit money-grubbing of the council to serve a PCN right at the end of the buslane.

However don't just cough-up rightaway, but submit reps on the basis that you were turning left and inadvertently drove into the bus lane for a short distance so as to make the turn safely. It is quite possible there will be a camera authorisation or other technical issue.  Your reps will give some time so that all these avenues can be explored by the experts on here. Provided you submit your reps so they are received
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I will draft tomorrow.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Barking Rd E16: 34j - Being in a bus lane (Camera enforcement)
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Better late than never:

Dear Newham

Ref: PCN                          VRM

I challenge the PCN as follows.

1. The video shows no warning signage allegedly passed.

2. Unless you can prove that the camera is approved, your evidence is inadmissible at the Tribunal.

3.*************

In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.

Yours faithfully

Name

Address

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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Wait for the enforcement notice.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Barking Rd E16: 34j - Being in a bus lane (Camera enforcement)
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Apologies for the delay in responding back to your post Enceladus. Been out of action due to a stomach bug I picked.

I have attempted again to post the notice of rejection letter, via the link below. With regards to the enforcement notice, I appear to have mislaid this & will endeavour to find it & post it.

https://imgur.com/a/newham-pcn-notice-of-rejection-Mzgn1r1
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